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    Reason for asking is that these rods were apparently designed specifically to suit this style of casting. I cannot remember the guy's name (it was only FlyLoops), UK guy - part of the Master Caster Association (or something). Will try to find his name - he was in SA for a bit a year or 2 ago.
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    Seems like a great technique to catch small fish

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    great technique to catch any fish.
    just a specialised casting technique, to deliver a fly to an exact spot
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    Im just kidding because of his video footage - it looks like a great way to get into tight spots and underneath branches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yella View Post
    Im just kidding because of his video footage - it looks like a great way to get into tight spots and underneath branches.
    That is a lot of the times where the big trout stay.
    Korrie Broos

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    Nymphing, adds depth to your fly fishing.
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    His name is Philip Bailey, as far as I know Atomsix and Maxxia specifically built rods for this style of casting. They basically call it a 3 weight rod, however in normal line terms it would be a 5 weight line. They where quite interested to do a course in SA if there was enough interest.

    With this style of casting they build a long leader and connect the section with small perfection loops that cause the leader to collapse when the fly hits the water

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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterS View Post
    His name is Philip Bailey, as far as I know Atomsix and Maxxia specifically built rods for this style of casting. They basically call it a 3 weight rod, however in normal line terms it would be a 5 weight line. They where quite interested to do a course in SA if there was enough interest.

    With this style of casting they build a long leader and connect the section with small perfection loops that cause the leader to collapse when the fly hits the water
    Thanks Pieter - the name eluded me the whole time!!!
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    We tried nymphing on the Orange with a "switch" rod. Not entirely a rod designed for the Spey, but more towards a two handed rod. Found the rod to be very heavy and stiff for any bite detection to be reacted upon quick enough. Spey rods I imagine, are even harder and stiffer, baring in mind the job that they have to do. Nymphing needs to be quite a delicate process, and spey rods are sledgehammers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Uli@84 View Post
    You should really just consider nymphing with a spey rod�� But there

    I like the use of the shorter rods, thanks for the info. Something to read about this winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterS View Post
    His name is Philip Bailey, as far as I know Atomsix and Maxxia specifically built rods for this style of casting. They basically call it a 3 weight rod, however in normal line terms it would be a 5 weight line. They where quite interested to do a course in SA if there was enough interest.

    With this style of casting they build a long leader and connect the section with small perfection loops that cause the leader to collapse when the fly hits the water
    Long leaders are more the French style, Italian casting is a shorter leader, much more direct. But also with a collapsing setup, but the fly touches the water first and the leader "pushes" the tippet to collapse
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    Yes, you are quite correct about the leader setup Korrie.
    Some time ago, Mark K came back after one of the Junior Worlds, and having spent some time with one of the Eurpoean teams (not sure if it was the Italians or some other team) he showed me some of these casts on our streams. We going back about 3 years, maybe more, but what I can say after watching the video, is that Mark has got these casts mastered, in fact some better than the guy in the video.
    Quote Originally Posted by Korrie View Post
    Long leaders are more the French style, Italian casting is a shorter leader, much more direct. But also with a collapsing setup, but the fly touches the water first and the leader "pushes" the tippet to collapse
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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