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    Quote Originally Posted by smallstreams.co.za View Post
    I'd actually get the #4 rather than the #1 or the #2. Hoppers and nymphs (depending on their size) can be harder to turn over properly with a #1 and #2, and given the rod is only 7'10, the extra oomph the #4 has will help a lot. Before I broke mine (TXL-F #4) it was my go-to rod for all those streams. I have the new blank but have not gotten around to rebuilding her yet - glass took her place
    I agree with Mario, either go for the 3wt or 4wt TXL-F. I own both the 000wt and 3wt TXL and have cast or fished the rest in the range. I have cast a couple of TXL-F's and besides them being 4pc compared to 3pc and fractionally lighter, I find the action to be very similar to the TXL's. The only thing I don't like about the TXL-F is the shortened grip as I have large hands. The thing about these rods is that they are all so light and delicate across the range, that from a fishing perspective you won't really notice the difference between them. You will however notice the difference when the wind comes up, which is when the lighter weights start struggling. These rods perform really well at short to medium distances if matched with the Sage QDT line. Cast the 3 or 4wt before making your decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    I used to have both in the older TXL, both are quite fast rods, the 2wt is not stiffer, they are equally as stiff in their weight class.
    I also had a 000wt, txl, also a fast rod, and very good in a light wind.. the ultra light Sages are light rods, not weak rods. It is best that you get some experience with ultra light rods before buying one, as its not everyones cup of tea. Personally, I loved the 000wt, but its useless at anything other than fairly close range single dry. Not a great nymphing stick at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    The 4wt, is a real cannon. With my 2wt TXL, it was able to happily turn over two reasonably sized nymphs and hoppers, certainly anything needed for Cape stream work, without any problems, however I began to prefer a different style of fishing, which the TXL range wasn't really suited for.
    As for the 000wt, Two moderately weighted Czech nymphs also not too much of a problem. bringing in a yellowfish of any size, certainly wasn't easy though
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Yes, I think I agree. Although the TXL range had a small issue with the very short cast, particularly the 2wt, I think the fast action of the rod wasn't very conducive to a very short cast. Its excellent at a middle to longer distance, but for presenting a fly within three rod lengths away, it lacks a little finesse. I felt that the fast action of the rod, caused the rod tip to move too quickly through the arc, and causing the leader to collapse, compromising accuracy and presentation. I think a stream outfit in the light to ultra light class should ideally be a medium to slower action, particularly in the shorter length rods. The 8 foot ZXL seemed to me to be a much better rod for the application than the TXL. I never fished with a TXL-F, so cant really comment of that. I think it again goes to show that when one gets into specifics around a stream outfit, some of the perceived very minor drawbacks of the rod, become huge issues.
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    “Apparently people don't like the truth, but I do like it; I like it because it upsets a lot of people. If you show them enough times that their arguments are bullshit, then maybe just once, one of them will say, 'Oh! Wait a minute - I was wrong.' I live for that happening. Rare, I assure you” ― Lemmy Kilmister

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