Reply With QuoteIf you don't get anything second hand, think about getting a 12wt bomber from Ganis (see ads in any TCFF) for about R1300. I fought a shark on my one for 3 and a half hours and I gave it all I had. Didn't break.
Steelhead
Heavy setup needed
Howdy if anyone has a 12 or preferably 15wt setup lying around gathering dust please contact me.
thanks! Willie
Steelhead
If you don't get anything second hand, think about getting a 12wt bomber from Ganis (see ads in any TCFF) for about R1300. I fought a shark on my one for 3 and a half hours and I gave it all I had. Didn't break.
Steelhead
I do have a NEW 15wt G. Loomis GL3 I have been meaning to put on auction
for some time. It is very castable for a 15wt.
Will try to put it on the site in the next coup,e of days.
Steelhead
Thanks I had a look at the specs for the GL3 it looks like the right tool for the job - just keep the price very low LOL! I'll keep a lookout in the classifieds for that one. I see the retail price is something like $600.
Regarding the Ganis Conrad, where did you get yours and do they have a 15wt as well? For YF I reckon the heavier setup would be better - unless the shark you had on was a 50kg mako?
Steelhead
Will
I recon for our Cape Town offshore work a 12 wt is all thats neede. Unless you are gunning for YFT offshore, then you need the heaviest stuff you can afford
For yellowtail, snoek, longtail etc a 12 wt will do it. Maybe some of the experienced offshore ouens can help her? MC, what do you think?
The shark I fought was a bronzie estimated at 7 ft (+- 90 kg). Had it below the boat and decided to break the line ...
Steelhead
Yep dis die lang geel sekels wat ek van praat. I was thinking of even using a modified 8ft spinning type rod with just a very heavy fly reel. The second hand market seems to very dry as far as these things are concerned.
Steelhead
No comercial "cheap" fly rods work for those Beasts
I have a Modified Purglass 250/4 probably a 25 wt and its still a little on the light side
The problem with Tuna in Cape Town is that the fight is Straight down and very few fly rods have serious lifting power
I have heard that the Gloomis MEGA is in a league of its own in this class but havent had the chance to fish one yet
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Steelhead
I hear you. Casting a flyline is probably not something that will be done with this kind of rod anyway, which makes the entire fly line obsolete as well I suppose. Technically we are not talking flyfishing anymore. I just like trying new things - I also have a 12" KP by the way (knuckle mince!) that I want to pair with the right rod for some interesting action.
Steelhead
I've a 9' 12wt which is about the largest I would class as a castable fly rod for fish like kingies or garrick for example. I've got a Powell 8'6'' 14 wt which I got years back in Vancouver and is of course purely a boat broomstick. I picked it up as a bargain basement deal otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.Iif you are going boat fishing and want to chuck a fly in the chum, you really do need a winch to pick up the tunas, sharks etc from the depths. I would seriously say if you want to do it on 'fly' gear rather get a normal boat rod custom-adapted for you to take a 'fly' reel - this will work out about a quarter the price of any 'fly' rod of the equivalent weight. Also with swells etc at sea, a lot less worry in case it snaps or gets damaged on the boat. Personally nine times out of ten I'd use conventional tackle as it's usually a lot quicker to catch/release the fish.
By the way, my 12wt got a good work-out last week in the spring tides at Salt Rock. The conditions were violent - my 9wt rods were as much use as gay magician's wands...got quite a few shad. I must admit it all got a bit much like hard work and I reverted to Mr Sashimi (Squid/Prawn combo put on the hook to look like sea lice) and I used my ultralightweight surfcasting rod to pick up some nice blacktail, rock cod and shad. I also caught my first ever bronze bream, about 3/4kg, about 15 metres from the shore into a gulley whilst all the machos were casting sardines 150 metres with 40lb tippets and catching zilch. An absolutely beautiful fish, thick-set body, gleaming bronze (obviously...) with fluo turquoise shading on it's fins. One of the most satisfying and memorable fish I've ever caught - I really worked for it, something for which I'm not renowned.... Everyone in front of the Salt Rock Hotel was disgusted when I returned the guy to live and fight another day.
The very next day the wind changed from a benevolent 'Berg wind' to a sooth-easter and I caught sweet FA just to bring me back to reality...
The more you know, the less you need (Aboriginal Australian proverb)
Only dead fish swim with the stream (Malcolm Muggeridge)
Steelhead
Originally Posted by damage
I see some Yanks now even use Penn 49s with metal spools on their Tuna fly rods...
The G. Loomis Mega series in IMX and GLX are great lifting rods, capable of 20lbs dead lift. For comparion on deadlifting 12wt's I have tried the normal GLX offshore, not enough in the Butt, but still better than the SAGE Xi 2 which is a real noodle. But both these rods are great shore/flats casting and fishing rods.
Replacing the Megas are the Crosscurrent 14 and 15wt which are also serious lifting cranes.
But if fishing IGFA, the 20LBs is the limit for your class tippet anyways and pulling 20lb on a flyrod is one hell of a pull to keep up on a 50kg YF for an hour+.
So where do we draw the line? If you cannot at least roll cast your flyline on proper flytackle with Flyreel, then why not opt for a Shimano Blue Rose with at least a Stella 10 000 ?
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