View Poll Results: How does the eye direction affect hook-up?

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  • Up-eye - hooked top lip

    1 14.29%
  • Up-eye - hook bottom lip

    1 14.29%
  • Down-eye - hooked top lip

    3 42.86%
  • Down-eye - hooked bottom lip

    4 57.14%
  • Straight-eye - hooked top lip

    2 28.57%
  • Straight-eye - hooked bottom lip

    2 28.57%
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Thread: Hook eye and Hookup??

  1. #41
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    I've read a piece on a US forum where they had a similar discussion some years back - related to streamer hooks.

    The argument put forth by one bloke was that a straight eyed hook was more prone to spinning at a certain speed (fast) than a down eyed hook at the same pace. He fished the exact same leader but experienced different results. So the leader can't be blamed.

    I can't say that I've experienced the same but to have a better picture one would have to go under with a camera to see the dfference if any. Unless you've taken some snaps underwater the ONLY visuals to speak off was that last bit of the retrieval and that is not telling the complete story.

    Interesting I wanna go test it and see for myself..
    Last edited by Gerrit Viljoen; 05-11-10 at 11:50 AM.
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    Interesting indeed - will be keen to hear your results.

    Pulling a fly fast to make it move though is not something I do a LOT anymore, but your results will still be very interesting to look at.
    Mario Geldenhuys
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallstreams.co.za View Post
    Interesting indeed - will be keen to hear your results.

    Pulling a fly fast to make it move though is not something I do a LOT anymore, but your results will still be very interesting to look at.
    Ha ha I need to go buy Gamas again (SE).Been using DE for the last season. Will make a plan.
    Gerrit Viljoen

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    I've also heard guys talking about straight eyed streamers wobbling. I think it's a load of rubbish. I'd suggest they tie their streamers properly in the first place! Or of course they could use up-eyes like on the salmon irons and use a Turle knot as I mentioned before and definitely no wobbles - but that's probably a bit too old-fashioned and tried-and-tested for them!...
    Last edited by chris williams; 05-11-10 at 01:36 PM.
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    Mario: I concentrated on hook position on saturday, and the up-eye hook I was using caught about 80% of the yellows in the lower lip, mostly near the scissors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circus View Post
    Mario: I concentrated on hook position on saturday, and the up-eye hook I was using caught about 80% of the yellows in the lower lip, mostly near the scissors.
    Fantastic feedback, thanks Circus!
    Mario Geldenhuys
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    While we are on the hook eye subject.
    WHy are not more hooks made with a vertical eye?
    Or have the vertical eye, above the paralel of the hook shank?

    The jig hooks are vertical eye and below the hook shank, but with a small extra piece of shank to accomodate the bead. That don't interfere with the hook up.

    just wondering
    Korrie Broos

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