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    Morning gents...i hope I have more luck on this then the last thread I posted.....I have read that its best to colour the braided loop black for tigers...is this so?and are you using just a permanent marker?thanks in advance....
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    Worked for me, but take the marker with you as it tends to fade over time in the water.

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    Do you colour your line with black marker also ? Then what's the point ( and no, I'm not being facetious )

    I was lugging a bright blue DI5 in water with +4M viz in places, didn't seem to put the fish off in the least.
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    maybe it has more to do with tigers having a go at the braided loop (especially if its chartreuse)? Has happened to me with salt water fish ... so guess its possible with tigers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firephish View Post
    maybe it has more to do with tigers having a go at the braided loop (especially if its chartreuse)? Has happened to be with salt water fish ... so guess its possible with tigers.
    Yes, thats the reason, if one is hooked, others sometimes try and get what is in front of it and more often than not its the braided loop, and the bling of a knot. So a dark marker works great, fireline in the place of mono or fluoro sorts out the other problem.

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    Havn't had that happen with me, not with standard white braided loops at least.
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    Tigerfish dont require much technical know how to for them to be caught on fly. A basic baitfish fly, chucked out into the right zone, and stripped, is going to catch them. Lets face it, you can technicalise it all you like, by colouring leaders, blah blah blah.....but at the end of the day, if the fish are there, they going to eat.... its not rocket science to catch tigers.... its a lot of fun though.
    I fished in the barbel run in the Okavango, where the tigers go on a frenzy, and eat anything in front of them, and never had a problem with them chowing the loop, so, blacken it, or dont blacken it.... no difference. Anything that gives the angler confidence, so if darkening your loop gives you confidence, then do it. However... one tiger outing, I did notice that they particularly liked black flies....so by making the loop black, you might just be encouraging them to try and eat it.
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Tigerfish dont require much technical know how to for them to be caught on fly.
    Since I have known you, you have started a response like that on every species you have ever chimed in on, except for Troot.

    Maybe we should just say that "at the end of the day, if the fish are there, they going to eat, its not rocket science"

    Untill you start an answer to a thread covering Troot in the same way, I'm going to be thinking you're just a snob.

    Anyways, getting back to the thread :

    What we saw in virtually 90% of the cases with fished hooked in the trips we've done last and this year, was that when bringing Tigers to the boat, the members of it's pod would typically be swimming right along with it untill they see you, not exhibiting any real agression as such, they're just tagging along with their mate (the hooked one) untill you put another fly or lure into the mix, then they hit it with reckless abandon and seemingly without hesitation or much inspection happening (who knows how long the eat it or don't eat it decision making process in a Tiger really takes, I've seen fish follow my fly for 20M only to hit it right at the boat when some seemingly insignificant change in the speed of retrieve as I was preparing to load up and recast the fly would then trigger a hit).

    This is nothing new or unique to Tigerfish, I've seen Yellowfish, Bass and Trout do the same thing, in fact it made for lots of fun trying to hook multiple Tigers at a time when the pods are coming closer to the boat, mid landing of the first hooked fish. Needlesly messy, ineffective fun, but fun nonetheless.

    What hasn't happened to me however is to have fish hit the braided loop (white), or the swivels I use (black nickel, varying sizes) ... granted, I'm not a doyen of Tigerfishing by any stretch of the imagination, but in the many full days I've spent fishing for them, I've not had that happen to me once, though admittedly I could possibly at a stretch understand it happening on chartreuse loops, there are times Tigers simply love Chartreuse over White Clousers.

    I honestly believe if you take into consideration the colour of the line, the braided loop, the thick mono/fluoro, the swivel and the steel trace, colouring the loop is a negligible component in the equation of success or failure with regard to Tigers.

    My ZAR0.02, YMMV.
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    A year ago almost to the day I was watching my white braided loop come through the water on the upper Zambezi and thinking to myself I really should blacken it, so when my fishing buddy got out his marker to darken a fly I got hold of it and darkened the loop. On the very next cast a tiger decided to eat the loop and left a nasty burr in the end of the fly line. So for me at least the jury's still out on whether it's a good or a bad thing.

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    All fish can be easy to catch. trout included. Yes I might be a bit of a trout snob, but it doesnt mean that they are any easier or any more difficult. I catch trout in the Cape rivers, and trout or no trout, small treams are specialised, so technically, perhaps a bit more difficult, but thats only because i catch trout in the rivers. if there were yellowfish or any other fish, the sreams would be just as specialised, so its not about the fish, but rather the environment that you are fishing in. All fish on the other hand can be difficult as well, de[pending on the conditions at play. My general take is that fly fishing isnt nearly as technical as some people like to make it out to be. Fish are fish, and if you do the right things, you going to catch them. Yellow fish for example are sometimes easy, and sometimes difficult, depending on the factors of the environment, but all things being equal, its the environment that makes the fishing challenging, not the fish. yes, Im a trout snob. I happen to love them and the places in the Cape where they are found.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scythe View Post
    Since I have known you, you have started a response like that on every species you have ever chimed in on, except for Troot.

    Maybe we should just say that "at the end of the day, if the fish are there, they going to eat, its not rocket science"

    Untill you start an answer to a thread covering Troot in the same way, I'm going to be thinking you're just a snob.

    Anyways, getting back to the thread :

    What we saw in virtually 90% of the cases with fished hooked in the trips we've done last and this year, was that when bringing Tigers to the boat, the members of it's pod would typically be swimming right along with it untill they see you, not exhibiting any real agression as such, they're just tagging along with their mate (the hooked one) untill you put another fly or lure into the mix, then they hit it with reckless abandon and seemingly without hesitation or much inspection happening (who knows how long the eat it or don't eat it decision making process in a Tiger really takes, I've seen fish follow my fly for 20M only to hit it right at the boat when some seemingly insignificant change in the speed of retrieve as I was preparing to load up and recast the fly would then trigger a hit).

    This is nothing new or unique to Tigerfish, I've seen Yellowfish, Bass and Trout do the same thing, in fact it made for lots of fun trying to hook multiple Tigers at a time when the pods are coming closer to the boat, mid landing of the first hooked fish. Needlesly messy, ineffective fun, but fun nonetheless.

    What hasn't happened to me however is to have fish hit the braided loop (white), or the swivels I use (black nickel, varying sizes) ... granted, I'm not a doyen of Tigerfishing by any stretch of the imagination, but in the many full days I've spent fishing for them, I've not had that happen to me once, though admittedly I could possibly at a stretch understand it happening on chartreuse loops, there are times Tigers simply love Chartreuse over White Clousers.

    I honestly believe if you take into consideration the colour of the line, the braided loop, the thick mono/fluoro, the swivel and the steel trace, colouring the loop is a negligible component in the equation of success or failure with regard to Tigers.

    My ZAR0.02, YMMV.
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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