I'm trying to get my post count up to chris's level. At this rate it will take me 30 years. approx
I'm trying to get my post count up to chris's level. At this rate it will take me 30 years. approx
Like I said, the formula is simplistic and in the standard one. I get that adding more length = thicker rod along the WHOLE rod, but the thicker butt portion is only 1/10 of the total length, while the also thicker non-butt portion is over 9/10 of the length.
Also, as I said, "M1 would be the relative mass of the reel+line+backing+rodbutt+handle."
In the sum of Reel+Line+Backing+rodbutt+handle, the Reel mass makes up most of that and even if the rodbutt mass had to double, it would only be a few grams out of the total, which requires substantially more mass per the equation. Thus most of the mass increase would have to come from the reel. (Line & backing mass remaining fairly low and constant, handle mass also fairly low by comparison and only increased due to larger butt diameter).
NOTE - threading FLYline through the rod eyes makes a noticeable difference to the balance point, since it both adds mass to the lever past the fulcrum (adds to M2), while at the same time reducing mass at the reel (subtracts from M1).
This is why you should always test balance with a rod which is strung up and has some flyline out the tip.
My point is that if for example, you change a 9ft 6wt Sage ONE for a 10ft 6wt Sage one, you are likely to need reel which weighs probably at a minimum 20% more (and possibly as much as 35% more) to balance it, compared to a reel which balanced the 9ft rod.
Gary
Flytyer - Where great flytying begins
i want to get to steelhead...how many posts do i need for that?
neil who is "Gay Borger"?
Borger's recommendations would have been at a time when heavy reels and shorter rods were the norm, and high-sticking (arm outstretched most of the day) was also not the norm.
If you are fishing shorter/lighter rods (say 1-3wt 8ft rods), then balance point is relative and you can get away with a slightly unbalanced, but lighter outfit, especially if you are not nymphing the modern way.
If you are going to be fishing Euro/French/Highsticking style with your arm outstretched most of the time over the course of a whole day and using a 10ft rod, then balance is vital and the reel needs to have appropriate mass. Otherwise the rod will be tip heavy and you will end up with a very sore forearm from having to use your arm muscles to apply upwards force (to counteract the mass imbalance) to keep the rod in the horizontal position when nymphing.
Gary
Flytyer - Where great flytying begins
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