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    Default Between Gariep and Van der Kloof - Anyone fished there?

    Hey Guys

    A friend of mine has a substantial stretch of river between Gariep and VDK. Has anyone fished out there before? I was thinking of doing a drift trip between the two sections. On Google Maps it looks like largie water to me, so wanted to ask and see of anyone in the group has had any experience with that section? Dont think I have to worry about flow fluctuations like VDK since Gariep is more constant, or am I wrong?

    Thanks for the help guys.

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    Jade, I remember somewhere on the forum a mention of fluctuations with the flow rising to about 50 cubes, but nothing like Vanderkloof's 300.
    Obviously the further downstream you are, the smaller the changes.
    My guess is that the peak flow times will be similar to VDK, i.e highest from 18h30 to 20h30. And half as heavy from 09h30 to 12h00.
    Seeing as the total elevation change from the Norvalspont bridge to VDK over 60km is only 35m, and much of that stretch is >200m wide, flow changes should be absorbed quite well.

    I'm very jealous, there is some superb looking water there. Please post some info/pics once you've been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circus View Post
    Jade, I remember somewhere on the forum a mention of fluctuations with the flow rising to about 50 cubes, but nothing like Vanderkloof's 300.
    Obviously the further downstream you are, the smaller the changes.
    My guess is that the peak flow times will be similar to VDK, i.e highest from 18h30 to 20h30. And half as heavy from 09h30 to 12h00.
    Seeing as the total elevation change from the Norvalspont bridge to VDK over 60km is only 35m, and much of that stretch is >200m wide, flow changes should be absorbed quite well.

    I'm very jealous, there is some superb looking water there. Please post some info/pics once you've been there.
    Thanks man! Appreciate the information. It is a long term project, and something that will require solid planning etc. More like a 3 week NZ backcountry adventure, rather than a quick Orange drift trip.
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    The problem with a raft float trip is how much time you want to spend on good water to fish, and how much drifting you want to do.
    I know of 50km trips that did not progress past the first 10km of water as the water was "SOOOO GOOOOD"
    You end up having to paddle the last day, to reach the pickup point in time.
    The opposite is also true, where you do so much paddling and drifting that the last 2 days you are at the pick up point, waiting for the pickup.
    Upstream wind can also be a problem in certain areas.

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    Jade, check out the narrows at 30 32.42 S ; 25 16.36 E
    It looks only 10m wide, should be fun to shoot that in an inflatable.

    Depending on the time of year, you may also find a smallie migration into the river to breed.

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    Thanks Circus, I saw that narrow slot! What I want to do is find a section of good water I can motor between with a 5hp on a Crocoduck, so I dont mind having a static camp. I dont think doing the whole section as a drift would be a goo idea, as there is a huge amount of flat water on that stretch too. Didnt think about the fish migrating up . . .

    @Korrie Agree with you, I would rather find a few good sections to fish within a large stretch of river and concentrate on that rather than just drift section to section till I hit Gariep . . .
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    The problem is that there are such LARGE STRETCHES OF GOOD WATER.
    I have done a number of drifts on the Orange, From where it crosses the Lesotho border to Aliwal North, all the way down Gariep Dam, past VDK dam, a sections in the lower Orange down to Potjiespram in the Richtersveld. With 2 man Indian canoes, Corcs and huge inflatable rafts.
    EVERY WHERE there is stunning water.
    The best will be to have a 1:50 000 or 1:20 000 map, plot i.e. 5 or 10km for every day, or space yourself over the total amount of kilometers, Stop and fish where you think it is good water and pace yourself on the 5 or 10km per day. you will soon get the flow of the river and how much floating/paddling/motoring you must do.
    Certain sections are so wide, (600 to 800m and only 30cm to 50cm deep) that you cannot use a motor and will have to get out and push.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korrie View Post
    The problem is that there are such LARGE STRETCHES OF GOOD WATER.
    I have done a number of drifts on the Orange, From where it crosses the Lesotho border to Aliwal North, all the way down Gariep Dam, past VDK dam, a sections in the lower Orange down to Potjiespram in the Richtersveld. With 2 man Indian canoes, Corcs and huge inflatable rafts.
    EVERY WHERE there is stunning water.
    The best will be to have a 1:50 000 or 1:20 000 map, plot i.e. 5 or 10km for every day, or space yourself over the total amount of kilometers, Stop and fish where you think it is good water and pace yourself on the 5 or 10km per day. you will soon get the flow of the river and how much floating/paddling/motoring you must do.
    Certain sections are so wide, (600 to 800m and only 30cm to 50cm deep) that you cannot use a motor and will have to get out and push.
    Yeah I know what you are saying Korrie. What I was thinking is of finding a stretch that concentrates a few good pieces of water, and travel up and down stream between them using a 5hp rather than just drifting down. That way I have more supplies in the support vehicle, and a solid take out and entry point without having to organise take outs with people. Have you done this stretch before?
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    Hi Jade, Sorry, that stretch I have not done.
    But it is not a very long distance.
    if my memories serves me right between Gariep Dam wall and top inlet of VDK is about 30 or 40km.
    Think it can be even less.
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    Somewhere it is mentioned what the lenght of VDK is Think 35km and the dam is low at present. 65%.
    If you go the "inlet" you might have about 10 or 15km to go further at this stage.
    Korrie Broos

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