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    Default Saltwater offshore hooks....

    Another Q for the salty buggers - I have trolled the salty section, and seen 2 major opinions regarding hooks:

    - Gamakatsu SL12 vs the rest

    - standard vs Circle

    Now before I start buying and tying for my planned offshore trip (see my other thread on Plasti Dip vs Loon), any other comments and suggestions...??


    EDIT: other things to consider:

    - Gamakatsu SC15

    - Mustad C68S SS

    - SS/silver vs "bronzed" hooks
    (I see Ufudu uses a dark circle hook for many of their patterns...I have a couple Mustads lying around, but I was concerned about using a dark coloured hook for a light/chartreuse pattern, but their flies don't look half bad )
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    Jan mate,

    There are as many opinions regarding what hooks to use as blokes actually fishing them.

    My time in the saltwater I have somehow always seemed to come back to the 34007 hooks for flies that are tied directly to the hook.
    My reason for this is that the hooks can always be touched up and they take an edge very well. In other words, they are razor sharp after they have seen a file.

    You will not be able to do this with chemically sharpened hooks-

    Now, another way to go about it is to use tube flies for your offshore work.
    Most of my offshore flies are BIG flies - 6 inches at a minimum but usually 10 inches and bigger. I use chemically sharpened hooks in these setups and peg them. As the hooks start to rust, simply replace them and you still have your fly if they last that long

    I'm super picky about my hooks and have settled on probably 3 styles I use all the time.

    Hope this helps.
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    Thanks for the info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogtooth View Post
    My time in the saltwater I have somehow always seemed to come back to the 34007 hooks for flies that are tied directly to the hook.
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    I'm super picky about my hooks and have settled on probably 3 styles I use all the time.
    So you reckon just the 34007 in 2/0, 3/0 and 5/0 for Dorado / Bonnies / Mackerel off Durban should do the trick?

    Otherwise what styles are you using?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogtooth View Post
    Now, another way to go about it is to use tube flies for your offshore work.
    I have some examples, but this is just a once off day affair , so I am tying directly onto the hook.
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    Yes mate -

    34007 will be fine for a days fishing.
    Just make sure you touch up the edge. You want a cutting point as opposed to a needle point on your hook.

    Mahi mahi like a big fly in general, so tie them big!

    I was actually going to ask what you were targeting, but your post answered that question.
    The tuna can be very picky - almost impossible at times - you want small white flies in these circumstances. For tuna, it is better to err on the side of flies too small than too big.

    Good luck out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogtooth View Post
    Yes mate -

    34007 will be fine for a days fishing.
    Just make sure you touch up the edge. You want a cutting point as opposed to a needle point on your hook.

    Mahi mahi like a big fly in general, so tie them big!

    Good luck out there.
    Thanks!

    Any suggestions on flies and sizes welcome...I was thinking along the lines of some Steve Farrar / Enrico Puglisi baitfish, flashy profiles, clousers, and some 'Poon duster/Whistler types...
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    Can never go wrong with flashies......

    My go to pattern everywhere.

    Will you be switch baiting or just chuck and chancing?

    Around structure, you want big flies that are head weighted. Work almost like a jiggy action. Fish deep and fast -
    Hang on though, some of the strikes are unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogtooth View Post
    Can never go wrong with flashies......

    My go to pattern everywhere.

    Will you be switch baiting or just chuck and chancing?

    Around structure, you want big flies that are head weighted. Work almost like a jiggy action. Fish deep and fast -
    Hang on though, some of the strikes are unbelievable.
    Not entirely sure what we will be doing! (never done this before ) - it's a prize day (from a trout comp) on the "Pulsator" out of Durban.

    2/0 to say 5/0 big enough?
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    Yeah mate - that'll do.

    Good luck out there and post some pictures up if you do any good.

    The sea is a big place - you should find out what they have in store for you so you can prepare.

    Good luck though.

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    I cant add much more

    Im all for the 34007's and 340011 pinch the barb and file the point and
    dont pull like a banshee on the smaller sizes and you wont go wrong

    the sl12s are magic but rust and are expensive

    The ufudu flies are tied on the owner Circles thees are good but are not for all species

    I struggle with toothy fish and Circles somehow

    that been said gamagatsu has a "circle fly " pattern thats good
    and the Mustad Circle streamer SS is also good

    both the above are good but cost moola

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