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    I don't know how many of you use tubes for your flies but I tie primarily all my baitfish patterns on to tubes. These tiny patterns are around 60mm long and have bagged me Baramundi in Australia,Kingies up in Kosi Bay and Perch here on the Baltic.Materials used are white and Off white Slinky fiber and either added pink,blue,green,red,gold FFF Flash for the flanks

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    These are mainly Off white slinky fiber patterns around 120mm long and have gold FFF Flash flanks.For a slight bit of weight I added a large gold conehead.

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    These are more or less the same pattern but tied onto Gamakatsu SL 12 saltwater hooks.I'll do a full tutorial for you guys in a week or so with these flies and post it on here for you to use.

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    If your looking for a baitfish pattern 100mm -120mm to mimic a small Dolphin,Dorado,Mahi mahi, then here is a link to a tutorial I did for them a few months back.One its loaded up view in Full screen mode
    http://issuu.com/simon_graham/docs/thesgbaitfish
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    Nice one Simon - look forward to the SBS.

    Quote Originally Posted by PikeFFArticles View Post
    If your looking for a baitfish pattern 100mm -120mm to mimic a small Dolphin,Dorado,Mahi mahi, then here is a link to a tutorial I did for them a few months back.One its loaded up view in Full screen mode
    http://issuu.com/simon_graham/docs/thesgbaitfish
    Also looking for any ideas for flies FOR (i.e. to be used on) Dolphin, Dorado, Mahi mahi...any suggestions welcome.

    TIA
    Jan L. KorrŻbel
    Nottingham Road Village

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    Hey Jan,
    If your looking for a good fly for Dorado then check out these 2 fly tying tutorials on youtube

    The 1st one "The Rhody flat-wing" I've use similar in Cuba and caught small tarpon,GT's and will definitely be good for Dorado
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiF6EOFhSOE

    The second one "The Ray's fly"is just a great simple light surf fly called the Ray's fly
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqcP_k1doE8
    "If you fish the wrong fly long and hard enough it will sooner or later become the right fly"
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    Here's another one I have used plenty of times on my travels its called the Bart-o Minnow baitfish pattern
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKcCiFY7Mc

    If your looking for something with a slight sardine look to it then Check out this tutorial
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlueOmLkXs

    Both are extremely effective saltwater patterns as well as fresh water.
    I caught a couple of nice 3 kilo Brown trout with the Charlies musky fly last season and last Xmas I bagged a small kingie in Durban harbor with a slightly smaller version of this fly.
    "If you fish the wrong fly long and hard enough it will sooner or later become the right fly"
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    http://www.balticpikeflies.com

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    Shot for those Simon - some interesting patterns there.

    Will take some pics of what I have been tying this week and post 'em here ASAP.
    Jan L. KorrŻbel
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    Really nice patterns, I'mvery interested to see how you tie them on tubes as that might be something to try for our toothy critters here.

    Jan dont worry about specific flies to fool dorado - they really are as doff as every one says. Guys catch them on frayed out ski roap tied to a hook... If you hook one try and keep it in the water near the boat for an extra few seconds and see if it attracts any others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jock0 View Post
    Really nice patterns, I'mvery interested to see how you tie them on tubes as that might be something to try for our toothy critters here.

    Jan dont worry about specific flies to fool dorado - they really are as doff as every one says. Guys catch them on frayed out ski roap tied to a hook... If you hook one try and keep it in the water near the boat for an extra few seconds and see if it attracts any others.
    Dave, its all and not any Dorado or gamefish that attacks at times anything that moves, but!! dont take that single action as a pointer. They can get choicy!!
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    Tubes are becoming more and more popular in the States,Mexico,Cuba and especially in Australia within the saltwater fraternity. The great thing about tubes is the extended life span of your fly. Especially with the cost of materials these days. Materials don't disintegrate around the tube as they would on a hook especially a saltwater fly

    I like to heat the end of the tube in hot water for a minute or so then slide the hook eye into the end.This stretches the plastic tubing which allows the hook to slide out once you have hooked a fish.The fly then moves freely up the linbe away from the fishes mouth thus stopping it getting mullard if the fish has some sharpish teeth....ie Cuda.

    Also with tubes, one can use extremely short shanked hooks cutting down on precious weight as well.
    "If you fish the wrong fly long and hard enough it will sooner or later become the right fly"
    John Gierach

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    http://www.balticpikeflies.com

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    Great flies Simon

    Super keen on getting some tubes here in SA to tie on, do you know where I can get them locally here in SA or if not where I can get them from overseas?

    Practically no-one in SA fishes them. I believe the main reason for this is not being able to source them at present in here (that i'm aware of).

    Regards
    Liam

    Quote Originally Posted by PikeFFArticles View Post
    Tubes are becoming more and more popular in the States,Mexico,Cuba and especially in Australia within the saltwater fraternity. The great thing about tubes is the extended life span of your fly. Especially with the cost of materials these days. Materials don't disintegrate around the tube as they would on a hook especially a saltwater fly

    I like to heat the end of the tube in hot water for a minute or so then slide the hook eye into the end.This stretches the plastic tubing which allows the hook to slide out once you have hooked a fish.The fly then moves freely up the linbe away from the fishes mouth thus stopping it getting mullard if the fish has some sharpish teeth....ie Cuda.

    Also with tubes, one can use extremely short shanked hooks cutting down on precious weight as well.
    "We all fish for our own enjoyment - me for mine and you for yours, nobody can say what is right and what is wrong." - Jim Leisenring

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    Hi Liam,
    With regards to tubes I use Eumer tube products,A Finish company and probably the world leader in Tube accessories at present. I do a lot of design & development work for them especially with pike tube fly accessories here in the Northern hemisphere. I am also going to be starting an internet shop in the very near future which will stock flies,materials as well as a lot of Tube accessories....Coneheads,Tubes,Teardrops,ball tubes etc etc

    I know they don't have any dealers in South Africa so I am looking at being able to market to guys like you over there. With the differences in the exchange rate being what they are, tubes and accessories wont be cheap but I can promise you this they will be much cheaper than say if a dealer marketed them over there or if you bought them from a tackle shop,and I'll be looking at having a different price structuring for all tube products for the South African market. anyway.

    I'm also looking at visiting my Oldman in Durb's in December and might run several tying workshops around the country. Maybe one in the Vaal, 2 or 3 in Durb's and a couple in Cape town if there would be any interest for that. I have several fly tying fairs I'm guest tying at in Europe this year and would like to end the year off back home for a month or so.

    I'll get back to you once I know more in a week or so.

    Si
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