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    Hi all.

    Soooo... Just got an TenkaraUSA Ebisu yesterday. Who is into this stuff?

    More info: http://www.tenkarausa.com/

    BC

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    There are few guys on the forum who have tenkara rods. there was thread a while back where it was discussed. I was looking at getting an outfit, but didn't really pursue it. I think I should re look at it, it is a lot of fun from what I hear.
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Hi all.

    Soooo... Just got an TenkaraUSA Ebisu yesterday. Who is into this stuff?

    More info: http://www.tenkarausa.com/

    BC
    Pretty much every smallstream fanatic or follower of Japanese fly fishing culture will be into Tenkara. In South Africa though, the following is still small. There is a small crowd though ... We are doing some experiments with Tenkara-like setups (not the telescopic American version) and should have some feedback in a couple of months.

    Tenkara is good though, especially up here ...
    Mario Geldenhuys
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    Just get yourself an 11' nymphing rod from some of the specialist rod makers.
    Then you have a decent nymphing rod as well.



    (JOKES JOKES, before I get shot. )
    Korrie Broos

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    Nymphing, adds depth to your fly fishing.
    Nymphing, is fly fishing in another dimension

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korrie View Post
    Just get yourself an 11' nymphing rod from some of the specialist rod makers. Then you have a decent nymphing rod as well.
    Watch this space Korrie - even you might like it

    Back to Tenkara though - for the price, it certainly is one of the best buys around.
    Mario Geldenhuys
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    "All the tips or magical insights in the world can't replace devotion, dedication, commitment, and gumption - and there is not secret in that" - Glenn Brackett

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    Looks interesting, sort of like a flyfishing cross of technique between using a long dapping rod with floss line (although that uses a reel) and the old-fashioned Thames roach pole which I used to use but with a float and bait, and the current continental use of long rods, now telescopic) with a fixed line (also mainly with a float and bait).

    Is is mainly for smaller streams and smaller fish bearing in mind I guess the limitation of not being able to let a big fish run?
    The more you know, the less you need (Aboriginal Australian proverb)

    Only dead fish swim with the stream (Malcolm Muggeridge)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris williams View Post
    Looks interesting, sort of like a flyfishing cross of technique between using a long dapping rod with floss line (although that uses a reel) and the old-fashioned Thames roach pole which I used to use but with a float and bait, and the current continental use of long rods, now telescopic) with a fixed line (also mainly with a float and bait).
    The style might be older than what you describe, will check though.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris williams View Post
    Is is mainly for smaller streams and smaller fish bearing in mind I guess the limitation of not being able to let a big fish run?
    Just horse the fish in, better for the fish anyway.
    Mario Geldenhuys
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    "All the tips or magical insights in the world can't replace devotion, dedication, commitment, and gumption - and there is not secret in that" - Glenn Brackett

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    Yep I'd think it's highly likely Tenkara is an older technique than say our English Thames roach fishing poles which I guess were only about from the 1600's. I know for example the Chinese were fishing with rods and reels I seem to recall reading about 1500 years ago.
    The more you know, the less you need (Aboriginal Australian proverb)

    Only dead fish swim with the stream (Malcolm Muggeridge)

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    Ja thanks korrie its your fault I bought the Tenkara rod! And I have the 10ft nymph rod! (Still in love with the Echo Shadow PE...)

    There is a fly tying shop in Japan that has been running for at least 400 years (in the same family) and still going, so it must have started before then. Earliest indications are something like 8th -9th BC (can you believe that!?). But since all of this is in Japanese, its hard to get info on it...

    Chris, while you can dapple all you want - it involves a lot of casting and technique (and stalking)- which is in fact the aim of the exercise (focussing on technique). And yes, strictly for smaller mountain streams - you can only use a max of 5X tippet.

    Ive really been battling casting on the grass with it, but Daniel from TenkaraUSA (who answers he's emails in a flash) recommends you dont, since you use water tension for the cast, and you dont necessarily want an unfurled leader, but at an angle to the rod in the current, so all the line is off the water.

    Will take it out the weekend though... But dont know if I have the heart for the 'one fly only all day' approach. Western anglers are obsessed with matching the hatch - these guys turn that philosophy on its head! Must be a truth in this somewhere...

    What about leader setups? I have a traditional line, but wonder what formulas for a level-line/tippet setup has worked for anyone? But I'll be experimenting with boiled leaders soon...

    Anyway - the whole philosophy appeals to me... And it can only improve my skills and understanding... There is a USA Tenkara Forum, but I thought we'dd keep things local!

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    Bernard

    I've been fishing Tenkara on and off for about a year now. Iwana 12'. i do'nt bother going the whole Japanese hog and using Tenkara flies. I use my own flies that I normally use on our Western cape streams.

    I've found the Tenkara rod to present wonderfully. As you say, the line is generally off the water and one can control drift with only a few feet of tippet on the water.

    I can cast mine quite well and fairly accurately but, and here's a big but, wind messes with casting accurracy. The line is so light and there is so little kinetic energy involved that wind force becomes an inhibiting factor. (For those of you that do'nt know Tenkara, a 000 Sage line feels like a 9wt compared to the Tenkara line).

    I've caught rainbows up to 18" with it but a big rainbow can, and has in my case, caused me to swim downstream after it.

    After my initial romance with the rod though, I've reverted back to normal fly tackle and will use the Tenkara as a novelty, from time to time. It is nice as a backpack rod though.

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