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Thread: Stealth Infinity vs TFO Profesional vs TFO BVK

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    [QUOTE=Johnathan;187082]Good day Chaps

    I use my 5wt Axiom for Nymphing on the Vaal. My 9wt Axiom is a beauty for saltwater (Wind? what wind). So if you plan to do more nymphing and streamers I recommend the TFO Axiom hands down. Its a bit more pricey though.

    Ok, a TFO Axiom, which is a very fast rod, reccommended for nymphing.... interesting.
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallstreams.co.za View Post
    I did not casted it, but I did cast it yes. It's very good rod.
    Thanks for correcting my unforgivable grammatical error, Oh Mr. Shakespeare...

    Cast AND fished it? And cast and fished the Stealth Infinity too?
    To make a decent comparison between the two, that's what needs to happen. If you've never cast one of the two, then it's not really a fair recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    Thanks for correcting my unforgivable grammatical error, Oh Mr. Shakespeare...
    No problem. I see the word is used quite a lot, and your post unfortunately was the one I made a comment on. Apologies if you took the comment personally Mike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    Cast AND fished it? And cast and fished the Stealth Infinity too?
    Cast both, fished the Infinity. Did not like Infinity in both departments. I liked the BVK a lot while casting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    To make a decent comparison between the two, that's what needs to happen. If you've never cast one of the two, then it's not really a fair recommendation.
    I've cast both, made my personal recommendation to Ruan, and that I think is what he was looking for - could be wrong. What I think of the 2 rods and what he will think of the 2 rods will be different most likely. But, asking an opinion on open forum regarding rods, I'm sure you'll get quite a few opinions. I think he also understands that as well.
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    Oh my word...I got to page three of this EIGHT page thread and got bored...

    Once again an innocent thread turned into a sarcastic peeing match...

    As was said, getting back to the original question...
    Go cast some rods in your price range (you said R 2000 right?). Then make up your own mind. Not many "CR@P" rods on the market today, really.
    Then when you narrow it down, also take other factors into consideration, like do you actually LIKE the look and feel of the rod? What is the warranty or back up like? Things like that.
    Don't forget some other makes too...like Grey's and Xplorer. Different strokes...you may be surprised by some of the rods.

    I'd suggest 9ft, not 10ft...to me it's more versatile (more of an all-rounder), and if you buy a 10ft 'cos you think it will help you cast further or keep line off the water, then rather go for casting lessons, 'cos that's a myth.
    This is my own personal opinion of course...some guys do like the extra foot of reach, when nymphing. I enjoy the 9ft when Czech nymphing...the 10ft's swing weight is a little more and your arm feels it after a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machann View Post
    Gentleman (and ladies) if you could get each one of these rods for the same price, which one would you prefer and why?

    What is good and bad when comparing these rods?

    Looking at a 5 wt for Stillwater trout fishing most of the time.

    Thanks
    PS: Don't forget to also go check out the "Horizon" rod range at Frontier Fly Fishing...I fished one for some time and it was really good value for money.
    Then, also the Rythm Rods that Ricko supplies at Fly Fishers Unlimited, and also very good. I've only cast one, a 5wt...but it was very nice too.
    Last edited by Michael; 17-03-11 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Unforgivable horrific grammar used by a Boertjie... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    Oh my word...I got to page three of this EIGHT page thread and got bored...

    Once again an innocent thread turned into a sarcastic peeing match...

    As was said, getting back to the original question...
    Go cast some rods in your price range (you said R 2000 right?). Then make up your own mind. Not many "CR@P" rods on the market today, really.
    Then when you narrow it down, also take other factors into consideration, like do you actually LIKE the look and feel of the rod? What is the warranty or back up like? Things like that.
    Don't forget some other makes too...like Grey's and Xplorer. Different strokes...you may be surprised by some of the rods.

    I'd suggest 9ft, not 10ft...to me it's more versatile (more of an all-rounder), and if you buy a 10ft 'cos you think it will help you cast further or keep line off the water, then rather go for casting lessons, 'cos that's a myth.
    This is my own personal opinion of course...some guys do like the extra foot of reach, when nymphing. I enjoy the 9ft when Czech nymphing...the 10ft's swing weight is a little more and your arm feels it after a while.
    Yes, a 9 foot rod is more versatile and more of an all rounder, that I agree. However, sometimes the requirement is not for an all rounder, but for something specialised. I have yet to see a 10 foot or longer rod that could convincingly be classed as an all rounder, but 9 foot all rounders, there are plenty.
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    and if you buy a 10ft 'cos you think it will help you cast further or keep line off the water, then rather go for casting lessons, 'cos that's a myth.
    I'm trying to figure this out, as I believe in the myth. Heres why:-
    If you have two guys sitting next to each other on a boat, and the one guy has a 10 foot rod, and the other guy has a 9 foot rod, and they are both casting, the tip of the 10 foot rod is going to be 12 inches higher in the air than the 9 foot rod. Assuming that the lines are both straight out the rod tip and parrallel with the water, the line out the 10 foot rod, would be a foot higher off the water than the 9 foot rod. All things being equal I guess. I know in practice it isnt always like this, so subjectively I will agree with you, that if you can cast properly, it is a moot point, but it's no myth.
    When I talk about "line off the water", I am not refferring to the casting, but more towards line managment, like high sticking, mending, and being able to lift your line over the boat partners head when the boat pivots due to wind or something. Also to keep more line off the water when you need to do that little roll cast, to straighten the leader and allow the water to load the rod for the initial back cast...stillwater boat fishing again.
    Another good use of a slightly longer rod, is if you are bank fishing, and there is a bush or a bank behind you, the little bit of extra reach can be usefull to get the line on the back cast a little higher. Either that, or you need to master the "steeple cast". Negligible advantages I know, but still, it's there.
    With regard to Czech nymphing, the reach is not always related to how far away from your body the rod tip is while fishing the rod, but more to do with the swing weight, where the reach of the rod can assist in making the upstream lob easier, requiring less arm energy. While it might be true that your arm can get more tired from holding a 10 foot rod parrallell to the water all day long, compared to a 9 foot rod, the energy you save in the upstream lob with a 10 foot rod over a 9 foot rod, using it's "swing weight" will counteract any fatigue that the longer rod might cause by having to hold it out level.
    Having said all this, it is unlikely that these small advantages are going to be worth swinging the decision, for most people, away from one rod length to another. The fact remains that 9 foot rods are definatly more of an "all rounder" type as you say Michael, and 10 foot rods more specialised. The points that I have raised are in the area of specialised applications where an all rounder 9 foot rod will do fine, but a 10 foot rod, might do it a little better. To compare an all rounder, to something with a more specialised application, might not be a wise thing to do, as it has the potentiol to open the debate up to opinions and then arguments.
    I personally prefer more specialised rods, and hence this would explain my vast array of rods that I have. For example, I fish the streams with a few different rods, one for dry fly, another for nymphing etc. Someone else might view this as unneccessary, and be of the opinion that all rounders will do, which is fair, but at the end of the day, we fish with the tools we choose, and make our chioces based on what we believe to be the best equipment for the type of fishing that we choose to do at any given time.
    Disclaimer.... none of my posts are intended to be "expert advice"..just opinions from someone who is willing to help where he can.

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    Thanks guys.

    I grew up with a fishing rod in my hands, my first passion is deep-sea, both bottoms and game fishing although fly has really gotten hold of me. I must congratulate you all on the passion for the sport… sorry I mean lifestyle. Also give yourselves a pat on the back for the amount of info you share and everything. That doesn’t always happen in fishing.

    I’ll follow advise and go have a look at a few other rods as well and the best I can do currently is see if I can cast them and take your word for how it fishes. Not sure there are a lot of shops how is going to give me a rod to go and try out on fish.

    I do want to go for some casting lessons. Currently busy reading “Casting with Lefty Kreh” and plan on practising a little with the book this weekend. Sure with most of you going for TFO’s, you won’t find much wrong with his method of casting? Given the length of this post, it is rhetorical question.

    Thanks guys, I really appreciate the sharing your experience. Will go have a look at rods and post a thread with the title “infinity vs BVK vs Professional…. Continued” and inform you with regards to my decision.

    Blessings to you all…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machann View Post
    Gentleman (and ladies) if you could get each one of these rods for the same price, which one would you prefer and why?

    What is good and bad when comparing these rods?

    Looking at a 5 wt for Stillwater trout fishing most of the time.

    Thanks
    Machann, after reading these past 8 pages of replies on this thread to your question, has it shed any light on your personal requirements with regards to which rod is going to suit you and your fishing best?

    All the above rods have their applications and place in the market, if they didn’t they would have been/will be discontinued.

    Even though the majority of the former’s replying here are extremely knowledgeable and technical when it comes to fly fishing and the application thereof, no one will be able to tell you which rod suits you best. Even the guys that are telling you that certain rods are made from superior materials, that doesnt mean the rod will be better for you and are they sure about there facts?

    I don’t think you will find anyone that knows and understands fly rods like a few guys that are replying here and it seems that they all have their own personal preference and opinions on the above mentioned rods, which differ and they all know what they are speaking about so who’s advice and opinions relate to you and your style?

    Personally, the way i see it is that it boils down to this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    but at the end of the day, we fish with the tools we choose, and make our chioces based on what we believe to be the best equipment for the type of fishing that we choose to do at any given time.
    I think the best bit of advice that has been given here is for you to get the feel of the rods mentioned, that’s the only way you really going to know.

    I think you did mention that you have felt the infinity and you liked it, if you can’t get to test or feel the other rods and you are confident that the infinity is a good rod that suits your style of fishing, buy it and don’t wonder if any other rod would have or could have been a better option.

    This is the rod that you are going to enjoy catching all your fish on.

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