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Wiets
26-10-08, 11:55 PM
FREE Water Mongoose Fur Patch - SEE CONDITIONS!

Up for grabs is a 90 x 35 mm piece of very scarce and very sought after Water Mongoose fur patch. The gaurds hairs are about 20 to 30 mm and the very dense under fur is about 12 mm in length. The underfur have a almost pearl gleam to it and as can be seen from the 2 nd photo, the colour close to the skin is caramel which becomes chocolate brown near the end. Be assured that Water Mongoose fur is very scarce and a much sought after fly tying material. Just yesterday, somebody paid R200 for a similar size fur patch.

Conditions;
1. The first person to list their name here on or soonest after 14H00 on 28 October 2008 (South Africa time) will receive this Water Mongoose fur patch.
2. You must have 50 or more posts on this forum to be eligible.

If you are not serious about collecting or receiving, please do not list your name.
The Water Mongoose fur patch is available for collection from;

Isando, Johannesburg
Northriding, Johannesburg
Killarney Gardens, Cape Town (only as from 21 November 2008)
Centurion, Pretoria

I will mail the fur patch to you provided you stay outside these areas.

Good luck!


http://www.weizter.org/Images/WaterMongoose1.jpg
http://www.weizter.org/Images/WaterMongoose2.jpg

MCC
27-10-08, 07:05 AM
Good morning Wiets

You seem to have your otter and mongoose mixed up. :rolleyes:

Cheers
MC

Andre
27-10-08, 08:18 AM
Yep, that's definatly otter.

Jasper
27-10-08, 08:45 AM
I may be naive ... but as a dedicated and concerned conservationist do you think we could be told the SOURCE of these pelts?

We all are aware of the end results of putting a monetary value onto animal products - always detrimental to the population of the species.

Wiets
27-10-08, 12:56 PM
Good morning Wiets You seem to have your otter and mongoose mixed up. :rolleyes: Cheers MC

Hi MC

No, I do not have them mixed up. The dark fur patch is certainly Water Mongoose and the light belly fur patch is Canadian Otter (female) - both farm raised.

Here is a LINK and PHOTO (http://www.krugerpark.co.za/africa_water_mongoose.html) of the African Water Mongoose.

Wiets
27-10-08, 01:15 PM
Yep, that's definatly otter.

Only if the Cites Certification which came with the pelt is inaccurate.

Wiets
27-10-08, 01:38 PM
I may be naive ... but as a dedicated and concerned conservationist do you think we could be told the SOURCE of these pelts? We all are aware of the end results of putting a monetary value onto animal products - always detrimental to the population of the species.

For reasons of not exploiting the species, I am not willing to tell you about my source. I can tell you that neither animal is endangered and was farm raised (bred in captivity). The Canadian Otter was imported from Canada with Cites certificate and proper import documentation.

MCC
27-10-08, 01:52 PM
Hi there

The markings on this goose's fur is much darker and looks completely different from the one which we get in SA.

Did you get this from Canada as well?

Cheers
MC

Wiets
27-10-08, 02:07 PM
Hi there The markings on this goose's fur is much darker and looks completely different from the one which we get in SA. Did you get this from Canada as well? Cheers MC

Hi MC

The Mongoose is from Mozambique - was a huge mission getting it here legally. But it is the same specie as the South African Water Mongoose - Atilax paludinosusis.

Andre
27-10-08, 02:21 PM
Hi MC

The Mongoose is from Mozambique - was a huge mission getting it here legally. But it is the same specie as the South African Water Mongoose - Atilax paludinosusis.

fair enough, but the water mongoose that i have looks completely different. Not even similar. My water mongoose was already dead when we found it, as it was the unfortunate victim of a hit and run driver. We watched it die, and we watched it's mate stressing next to the body. It was not pleasant to witness. These animals apparently mate for life, and when one dies, the remaining one will hang around the area where it's mate died, and starve itself to death. Sad really.

Wiets
27-10-08, 02:27 PM
fair enough, but the water mongoose that i have looks completely different. Not even similar. My water mongoose was already dead when we found it, as it was the unfortunate victim of a hit and run driver. We watched it die, and we watched it's mate stressing next to the body. It was not pleasant to witness. These animals apparently mate for life, and when one dies, the remaining one will hang around the area where it's mate died, and starve itself to death. Sad really.

Hi Andre

Will you please post a close-up photo of the fur you have. Strange that the fur looks different.

glycoprotein
27-10-08, 02:35 PM
Hallo I would love to this in my material box

Wiets
27-10-08, 02:39 PM
Hallo I would love to this in my material box

The deadline is tomorrow - you also need another 49 postings. :eek:

chriss
27-10-08, 03:16 PM
This is something I would use for RAB's. May I have it?

Hackle
27-10-08, 03:19 PM
too late he cried!! Was sitting here reading the post and thought I would make myself a cup of tea before replying... hmmmmm:rolleyes:

ShaunF
27-10-08, 03:50 PM
Eish ! And we wonder why there are so many misunderstandings on this forum. Okes can't read! :rolleyes:

For those who are hard of eyesight,

You can only post TOMORROW, 28 OCTOBER at 14H00!!!!!!111oneonewon :D

FishWhisperer
27-10-08, 04:17 PM
fair enough, but the water mongoose that i have looks completely different. Not even similar. My water mongoose was already dead when we found it, as it was the unfortunate victim of a hit and run driver. We watched it die, and we watched it's mate stressing next to the body. It was not pleasant to witness. These animals apparently mate for life, and when one dies, the remaining one will hang around the area where it's mate died, and starve itself to death. Sad really.
IT WAS NOT NICE TO CLEAN!!!:D Still have the photos on my computer somewhere. Not sure if its a bit goss to put up...?

MyWorld
27-10-08, 04:46 PM
I think FlyTalk's server is coming down tomorrow at 14:00, there are a lot of people interested in this water mongoose fur, including me, but alas, I'll be out of town on business so I concede to the next person.
:'(

FlyFanatic
27-10-08, 05:57 PM
an evil (but brilliant) plan to beat the most ppl on fly talk at one time me wonders...??? :D

Wiets
28-10-08, 01:33 PM
30 Minutes to go!

rols
28-10-08, 01:36 PM
Ag No Man, I was hoping people had forgotten about the giveaway and then I sneak in:D Now they all know:p

poppernel
28-10-08, 01:38 PM
Ag No Man, I was hoping people had forgotten about the giveaway and then I sneak in:D Now they all know:p

Ye!! Wiets, now even the fur huggers are gonna try.:D

Dave

Rendier
28-10-08, 01:59 PM
Pick me please

Dieter
28-10-08, 01:59 PM
I would like the fur patch please..:)

Dieter

rols
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
I would'nt mind some thanks

Troep
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
Hi Wiets

If im in time the Mongoose will be highly appreciated!!!;)

Cheers
Troep

Fisher
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
BANG!thewccccccccccggggggggghe............

....is it a hit ?

Can some one confirm the kill ?

Adrian
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
Me , Please Wiets :D

Adrian

Rendier
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
Pick me please...

Dieter
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
I would like the fur patch please..:) Wiets

Dieter

frikb
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
Me Please :D

Rendier
28-10-08, 02:00 PM
Congrats Roland..missed it by 14 seconds...

frikb
28-10-08, 02:01 PM
I'll try again :D
me please

Fisher
28-10-08, 02:01 PM
THis is crazy !! Wiets you'll have to send 3, 4 or more !! :D

poppernel
28-10-08, 02:01 PM
Dam P.C

dAVE

Adrian
28-10-08, 02:02 PM
Well Done Rols , Nice one man :D

frikb
28-10-08, 02:03 PM
I was trying to get my manager walk away from my desk.... :p

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:03 PM
Rols seems to be the winner.
However, he cheated!!!

Troep
28-10-08, 02:03 PM
Rols your internet is a little faster....

I hate the varsity internet speed.

Enjoy the mongoose!!!:D

frikb
28-10-08, 02:05 PM
Yes come show us some of the flies Rols

poppernel
28-10-08, 02:05 PM
Dam P.C

dAVE

MY P.C. just would not open the thread and then struggled to post reply. Felt like ages.:eek:

Dave

Dieter
28-10-08, 02:05 PM
Late Birthday present Rols! Congrats

rols
28-10-08, 02:05 PM
I actually had no idea as my watch is different to the pc and the guy on the radio had already started reading the 2pm news.....pure fluke. :D

Fisher
28-10-08, 02:07 PM
Rols seems to be the winner.
However, he cheated!!!

It must be, I dialed the "1260" time and the moment I heard the "beep" I hit the button 0.00023859 bilionth of a second to late !!!!:D

This was fun thanks Wiets for hosting a great show !!

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:08 PM
See my message on previous page;

Rols cheated!!

frikb
28-10-08, 02:12 PM
So who's the winner Wiets? Troep?

Troep
28-10-08, 02:15 PM
Rols cheated!!

If thats the case - can I start smiling???

Morne
28-10-08, 02:15 PM
I believe you. Ill take it thanks:D


See my message on previous page;

Rols cheated!!

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:19 PM
Let Rols come and explain himself before allocating this fur patch.
Hell, the things people get up too!

Fisher
28-10-08, 02:19 PM
If thats the case - can I start smiling???


Oh-Yea ! :D

rols
28-10-08, 02:20 PM
See my message on previous page;

Rols cheated!!
I must admit I'm a bit lost here.....You did'nt want the bribe:p

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:24 PM
More underhanded manipulating on your part!?
Rols, explain to us what you did and the cheat you pulled off.

rols
28-10-08, 02:27 PM
Can only be, me hoping the thread would be forgotten because of no traffic today, and that I had'nt forgotten.....:confused:

Adrian
28-10-08, 02:29 PM
Sounds like a Tint case here :eek: who is the JZ here :p

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:32 PM
Can only be, me hoping the thread would be forgotten because of no traffic today, and that I had'nt forgotten.....:confused:

OK Rols, one last change!
Proof your innocence then.

rols
28-10-08, 02:37 PM
OK Rols, one last change!
Proof your innocence then.
I don't think it's possible to cheat though. I'm not sure if my computer clock is correct, so I think we all have the same chance????

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:38 PM
Rols, you must type faster!!!

rols
28-10-08, 02:39 PM
geez I've gone back twice and re read the posts. You really are worrying me here. I have no problem to withdraw from the event though if I have done something wrong.

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:41 PM
I don't think it's possible to cheat though. I'm not sure if my computer clock is correct, so I think we all have the same chance????

I got to run!

Rols, I have been pulling your leg!
You are the winner of the Water Mongoose Fur Patch.

Enjoy!

rols
28-10-08, 02:44 PM
I got to run!

Rols, I have been pulling your leg!
You are the winner of the Water Mongoose Fur Patch.

Enjoy!
Hey you Sh!t
You had me going there. Even Debbie was trying to look if I did something wrong.
Thanks for spicing up the afternoon:eek:

Troep
28-10-08, 02:46 PM
Wiets you pulled my leg as well ne!!:D

Enjoy Rols - Fair and square!

Cheers

Wiets
28-10-08, 02:46 PM
To all the other losers :eek: (guys who lost), there will be more in future.

Thanks for participating!

Fisher
28-10-08, 02:48 PM
:D:D:D

Rols tie me a fly !

rols
28-10-08, 02:50 PM
:D:D:D

Rols tie me a fly !
Done
Really looks like a mean patch to have. Going to be fun using it. Don't forget the next one tomorrow.....I will sit it out:)

frikb
28-10-08, 02:51 PM
I think Wiets had us all going for a moment.:D

Fisher
28-10-08, 02:55 PM
To all the other losers :eek: (guys who lost), there will be more in future.

Thanks for participating!

I thik its unfair, my post ran 1350 km in bits of a second, Rols post had to do but a few miles, well his post did arive first, but whom have the fastest chicken ?? (Troep you used a tarrentaal, that is cheating, only domestic fowl may be used when running for fur, apendix 27.11 in your rule book !)

Cheers

Fisher :mad:

;)