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Wiets
10-12-08, 11:54 AM
February 2009 Saltwater Fly Swap

The theme for this fly swap: Baby Charlies.

Here are the rules;

1. You can tie any BABY CHARLIE.
2. Participants are limited to 15 members.
3. You are required to tie one fly for each participating member, one for yourself and one for the flyswap master.
4. The flies must be mailed before 28 February 2009.
5. List your name here before 15 January 2009 if you intend participating - please be serious and committed about it.
6. On 15 January 2009, the total number of flies you need to tie will be posted here.
7. Mail your flies to:

Saltwater Fly Swap - Feb. 2009
Attention: Wiets Wilken
P.O. Box 90
Isando 1600

8. Package your flies properly so that it's not damaged in the mail.
9. Get a mail tracking number and post it here once mailed.
10. Remember to include you forum name, proper name and return address.
11. Do not worry about self addressed envelopes or stamps - I will take care of that.

Notes
1. Flies go missing in the mailing system, it's vital to get a tracking number and post it here the moment you have posted.
2. Members not delivering after committing will be banned from all future flyswaps I may hold.

Enjoy!

Adrian
10-12-08, 11:57 AM
I am in :D

poppernel
10-12-08, 12:05 PM
HI Wiets,

I too!!:D ( will also tye a extra fly for the swop, ''ruffy'')

Dave

rory
10-12-08, 12:08 PM
I'm in!:D

Wiets is it still OK to deliver the flies to one of your shops?

Wolfie
10-12-08, 12:12 PM
Hi Wiets

I would also like to participate.

I just have 2 Questions.

1.Baby Charlie - Is this ebasically the same as any normal charlie just under a certain hook size?

2. Do we have to nominate what type of baby charlie we would like to make so that we don't all end up making the same fly?

Regards

Rudolf

Wiets
10-12-08, 12:14 PM
Participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory

So far, flies to tie: 4
Available spots: 12

Wiets
10-12-08, 12:18 PM
Hi Wiets I would also like to participate. I just have 2 Questions. 1.Baby Charlie - Is this ebasically the same as any normal charlie just under a certain hook size? 2. Do we have to nominate what type of baby charlie we would like to make so that we don't all end up making the same fly?
Regards Rudolf

Hi Wolfie

We held a poll for which flies are to be tied for future flyswaps. The Baby Charlie attracted the highest number of votes. To answer your question, I think that it is a small version of a Crazy Charlie. Perhaps other members can enlighten us more about this.

The flies will mkost likely be similar, buit it is highly unlikely that they will be identical. No, you do not have to nominate the fly you intend tying.

Regards

Wiets
10-12-08, 12:19 PM
I'm in!:D Wiets is it still OK to deliver the flies to one of your shops?

Howzit Rory - no problem! :D

Wiets
10-12-08, 12:20 PM
HI Wiets, I too!!:D ( will also tye a extra fly for the swop, ''ruffy'') Dave

Hi Dave

The next flyswap will most likely be for a "Ruffy".
But tell us; "What exactly is a Ruffy?"

rory
10-12-08, 12:21 PM
Howzit Rory - no problem! :D

Excellent, thank you!;) I think I'll tie up some baby mud charlies.:cool:

kreef
10-12-08, 02:07 PM
Hi Wiets

Have not done one for a while, so please add me to the list.

Cheers

Wiets
10-12-08, 03:00 PM
Participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef

So far, flies to tie: 5
Available spots: 11

cptfly
10-12-08, 03:09 PM
Hi Wiets,

You can add me to the list

Wiets
10-12-08, 03:25 PM
Participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
J Brink

So far, flies to tie: 6
Available spots: 10

deewy
10-12-08, 10:38 PM
I will join this one. Got plenty materials for these babies that havent been used for long time.

And I will have time to test them in the salt over the festive season, will post a list of fish that ate them.

Dewald

Wolfie
11-12-08, 08:14 AM
Hi Wiets

I am in on this one as well.

Regards

Rudolf

FishWhisperer
11-12-08, 11:15 PM
Im in! :D
Baby charlies are just small crazy charlies. Have fun.

cptfly
12-12-08, 12:50 PM
is their a specific size (no. 8,6,4,2) we must tie ?

Wiets
13-12-08, 12:29 PM
Participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer

So far, flies to tie: 8
Available spots: 8

Wiets
13-12-08, 12:32 PM
is their a specific size (no. 8,6,4,2) we must tie ?

Hi John

Matt (FishWhisperer) will be the best one to advise you on ideal hook size.

JanK
14-12-08, 07:07 AM
Yes please, I'm in for this one...

Wiets
15-12-08, 10:41 PM
Participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer
JanK

So far, flies to tie: 9
Available spots: 7

JanK
17-12-08, 04:39 PM
So do we have finalization on what constitues a "baby" charlie - size 8 and/or smaller?

Was down in Durbs today so had a quick squizz at the hooks - Mustad 34007 being the preferred salty hook (any other recommendations?) but nothing smaller than a #8...

rory
21-12-08, 12:12 PM
Size 8 is tiny!:eek: Can we go up to a size 6 or even 4?:confused:

JanK
21-12-08, 05:57 PM
Size 8 is tiny!:eek: Can we go up to a size 6 or even 4?:confused:

He he he...was asking 'coz my recent tying activities have been in the #12/14/16 range for trout, and all of a sudden the 34007 #8 looks like a tuna hook!

Saw some nice looking #10 "Owner" hooks...short shank with big gape though...looked like a #8 gape.

See their saltwater hooks here:

http://www.ownerhooks.com/pages/products/hooks/saltwaterhooks.htm

Cheers,

Jan.

rory
21-12-08, 06:56 PM
....He he he...was asking 'coz my recent tying activities have been in the #12/14/16 range for trout, and all of a sudden the 34007 #8 looks like a tuna hook!......


No problemo Jan!;) I think I'll use a #4, but if the guys want them smaller its not an issue. We'll probably reach a consensus (if its necassary) after the hols when everyones online again.

rory
30-12-08, 10:41 AM
OK strafdop for me!:rolleyes: To match the size dumbell eyes I bought I'm dropping the hook size to a #6. I've painted and epoxied the eyes onto the hooks, they all ready to be tied up!;)

Herman Jooste
30-12-08, 11:17 AM
OK strafdop for me!:rolleyes: To match the size dumbell eyes I bought I'm dropping the hook size to a #6. I've painted and epoxied the eyes onto the hooks, they all ready to be tied up!;)

Just make sure you bring an appropriate one with tomorrow.:D

E.T.
09-01-09, 11:43 PM
Let everyone finish their flies!

If nobody steps to the plate within the next few weeks, then who knows?

The flies might just get sent my way?

If it comes my way again or anyone else's way, I would like to suggest that we try and work it on a way where every entrant pays his own return postage, because running swaps with 15 - 16 entrants per Salt and Fresh Swap with the host handling all costs, becomes expensive and will put a dent in most peoples wallet.

Just my Zim Million Dollar thought......;)

deewy
10-01-09, 12:23 AM
Please excuse me from this swap. I just cant see it working 100% without someone directing the flow of things.

Sorry guys

poppernel
10-01-09, 09:37 AM
Please excuse me from this swap. I just cant see it working 100% without someone directing the flow of things.

Sorry guys

''DITTO'' Please excuse me as well.

Dave

dlampert
10-01-09, 10:00 PM
Wiets contacted me and asked me to post the following:

1. The Fly Swaps are still on!
2. Follow all the same instructions and post your flies to Wiets - he will still distribute them.
3. Let me know of any issues and I will pass them on to Wiets

As usual he has kept to his word.

Regards,
Darryl

rory
11-01-09, 11:24 AM
Wiets contacted me and asked me to post the following:

1. The Fly Swaps are still on!
2. Follow all the same instructions and post your flies to Wiets - he will still distribute them.
3. Let me know of any issues and I will pass them on to Wiets

As usual he has kept to his word.

Regards,
Darryl

Excellent news! Thank you Darryl.

JanK
11-01-09, 04:27 PM
Cheers Darryl!

Good to hear all is on like scone...I am still "in like Flynn"...let us know the final numbers and postal addresses etc. etc. and I'll do my thang....

Salute,

Jan.

dlampert
15-01-09, 08:13 AM
Here is the final list of 8 participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer
JanK

OK, listen up!
1. Each participant must tie 9 flies.
The theme for this fly swap: BABY CHARLIE.
2. Please ensure that the flies are mailed by no later than 28 February 2009 to;
Saltwater Fly Swap Feb. 2009
Attention: Wiets Wilken
P.O. Box 90
Isando 1600
South Africa
3. Once mailed, please post that you have mailed here on this forum (tracking numbers will greatly assist).
4. Remember to include your forum name, your real name and return address.
5. No need for self addressed envelopes or stamps.
6. I will take pictures of the flies and post it on this forum.
7. I hope to mail the flies back to everybody sometime early in Mar. 2009.
8. You will receive 8 flies back from this flyswap (not 9).
9. Once mailed, I will also post mail tracking numbers here on this forum.
Good Luck!

rory
15-01-09, 09:42 AM
Please excuse me from this swap. I just cant see it working 100% without someone directing the flow of things.

Sorry guys


''DITTO'' Please excuse me as well.

Dave


Here is the final list of 8 participants

Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer
JanK



Deewy and Pops, are you guys still in?:confused:

rory
16-01-09, 09:44 PM
Deewy and Pops, are you guys still in?:confused:

-* BUMP *-

Sorry guys I'd like to finish up tying. :o Are we 8 or 6 participants?

poppernel
17-01-09, 07:21 AM
Hi guys,

Count me back in, will take part.

Dave

deewy
17-01-09, 08:28 AM
Ja okay

I have always been one to suffer under pure pressure:D you oaks better tie some decent flies, i dont want to clutter my board, i wanna fish them, must still figure out what fish to target with them.

rory
17-01-09, 08:42 AM
Hi guys,

Count me back in, will take part.

Dave


Ja okay

I have always been one to suffer under pure pressure:D you oaks better tie some decent flies, i dont want to clutter my board, i wanna fish them, must still figure out what fish to target with them.

Excellent!!;):D

JanK
19-01-09, 06:16 PM
you oaks better tie some decent flies, i dont want to clutter my board, i wanna fish them, must still figure out what fish to target with them.

ROTFLMAO

Well then, the striped mullet in Knysna didn't like my baby charlie offerings - or anything else for that matter :eek: - last week, so mabbe, just mabbe, I need re-assess....:p

rory
20-01-09, 09:15 PM
OK chasps, my flies are done. ;) I'll be dropping them off at Wiets' shop tomorrow afternoon. Depending on the traffic home I might be forced to wait it out at the "Corner House Pub":D Terrible business!:cool:

Herman Jooste
20-01-09, 09:18 PM
I thought Gills was closer, and an easier wait.:D

tye2
20-01-09, 09:19 PM
OK chasps, my flies are done. ;) I'll be dropping them off at Wiets' shop tomorrow afternoon. Depending on the traffic home I might be forced to wait it out at the "Corner House Pub":D Terrible business!:cool:


Rory times are so tuff ! ;)

rory
20-01-09, 09:22 PM
I thought Gills was closer, and an easier wait.:D

In this case the irish are closer! But the wait will still be pretty easy!;)


Rory times are so tuff ! ;)

Dude, its all in the planning!!!:D:D

tye2
20-01-09, 09:42 PM
In this case the irish are closer! But the wait will still be pretty easy!;)



Dude, its all in the planning!!!:D:D

Ps went past the brewer ! got a few options on goblins ,ect !

rory
21-01-09, 06:54 PM
Right my flies are delivered!;)



Ps went past the brewer ! got a few options on goblins ,ect !

Lucky bugger!:D

dlampert
02-02-09, 09:19 PM
Msg from Wiets

Received flies from the following members;
Rory - 8

Awaiting your flies
Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer
JanK

Remember
When posting, please remember to include;
Your forum name, full name and postal address
Post the tracking number here once posted.

poppernel
15-02-09, 11:09 AM
Msg from Wiets

Received flies from the following members;
Rory - 8

Awaiting your flies
Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Kreef
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer
JanK

Remember
When posting, please remember to include;
Your forum name, full name and postal address
Post the tracking number here once posted.

That makes it 10 flies to tie, Rory old chap!! 2 short.:D:D

chris williams
15-02-09, 11:14 AM
Rory just SMS'd me, he's just getting a dozen lemons to start making some Margueritas - I'll remind of him of his extra obligations before it's too late!!!

rory
15-02-09, 11:51 AM
Here is the final list of 8 participants

1. Adrian
2. Poppernel
3. Rory
4. Kreef
5. Deewy
6. Wolfie
7. FishWhisperer
8. JanK

OK, listen up!
1. Each participant must tie 9 flies....

....8. You will receive 8 flies back from this flyswap (not 9).



That makes it 10 flies to tie, Rory old chap!! 2 short.:D:D

Hi Dave no worries.;) Unbeknownst, I usually give Wiets (as the organiser) a seperate fly package as a thank you. Thats one off the list of 9, which leaves 8. As per instructions above, looks like I'm covered? :confused:


Rory just SMS'd me, he's just getting a dozen lemons to start making some Margueritas - I'll remind of him of his extra obligations before it's too late!!!

Hee hee, I found some kiwi fruit at a good price, so its Margaritas and kiwi fruit Daquiris this afternoon, Yes Please!!!:D:D:cool:

poppernel
15-02-09, 12:32 PM
Hi Dave no worries.;) Unbeknownst, I usually give Wiets (as the organiser) a seperate fly package as a thank you. Thats one off the list of 9, which leaves 8. As per instructions above, looks like I'm covered? :confused:



Hee hee, I found some kiwi fruit at a good price, so its Margaritas and kiwi fruit Daquiris this afternoon, Yes Please!!!:D:D:cool:

My mistake for not picking up Daryl's mistake,:( he received your flies but still had you on the waiting list.:D

DAVE

P.S. Will also send Wiets an exra fly( Ruffy) as earlier here he wanted to know what it is.

JanK
17-02-09, 01:20 PM
Chasps,

Posted my flies today. Registered mail, tracking number: RD 107 517 256 ZA

Looking forward to the returns.

See (most of) you on the next one!

Salute.

kreef
17-02-09, 02:33 PM
Just posted my flies. Tracking number: PE492092704ZA

Tight lines

dlampert
22-02-09, 09:10 PM
Received flies from the following members;
Rory – 8
Kreef - 9

Awaiting your flies
Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer
JanK

Remember
When posting, please remember to include;
Your forum name, full name and postal address
Post the tracking number here once posted.

Rory – thanks for the extra flies!

dlampert
26-02-09, 09:04 AM
Received flies from the following members;
Rory – 8
Kreef - 9
JanK - 9

Awaiting your flies
Adrian
Poppernel
Rory
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer

Remember
When posting, please remember to include;
Your forum name, full name and postal address
Post the tracking number here once posted.

Rory – thanks for the extra flies!

JanK
26-02-09, 09:23 AM
Still need to take Rory's name out of the "Awaiting Flies" section - it nearly caused myself and Dave some grief previously when we did a double-count with him and nearly sent 10 flies....:D

poppernel
26-02-09, 11:40 AM
HI GUYS,

Will post mine today, overnight express.

DAVE

poppernel
26-02-09, 03:48 PM
hi guys,

will post mine today, overnight express.

Dave

tracking no: Tc111082839za.

Dave

poppernel
02-03-09, 12:42 PM
Have all the flies arrived??? What's up.:)

DAVE

poppernel
02-03-09, 05:07 PM
have all the flies arrived??? What's up.:)

dave

bump!!!:(:)

dave

poppernel
02-03-09, 05:40 PM
Come on guys, play the game, all the flies have not arrived.

DAVE

dlampert
02-03-09, 10:38 PM
Received flies from the following members;
Rory – 8
Kreef - 9
JanK - 9

OVERDUE
Adrian
Poppernel
Deewy
Wolfie
FishWhisperer

Remember
When posting, please remember to include;
Your forum name, full name and postal address
Post the tracking number here once posted.

JanK
04-03-09, 07:23 AM
BUMP, SHAKE, RATTLE and ROLL... :D

C'mon guys, get your flies in - Wiets is waiting to get this swop over and done, so we can gracefully get into the next one.

Dave's flies are in the post - should be there today I reckon.

Deewy mentioned he was late...so he's tying right now I reckon :cool:

Adrian / Wolfie / FishWhisperer - what's the state of your flies chaps?

FishWhisperer
05-03-09, 01:40 AM
Already send, should be with Wiets in the next day or two. Sorry for the delay guys.

JanK
05-03-09, 02:22 PM
Already send, should be with Wiets in the next day or two. Sorry for the delay guys.

All good.

Saw that Adrian is also about to / already send off, so that just leaves Wolfie.


May as well stay at the vice and start again : Rory will apparently be done shortly with the next round already - I think his fly is called the "Sjambock" :D

Adrian
05-03-09, 02:29 PM
Parcel arrived last week friday in Isando and confimed all is well with the organiser .



All good.

Saw that Adrian is also about to / already send off, so that just leaves Wolfie.


May as well stay at the vice and start again : Rory will apparently be done shortly with the next round already - I think his fly is called the "Sjambock" :D

poppernel
05-03-09, 05:19 PM
My flies were posted last week thursday!! overnight express courier. Should have been collected after 10h30 friday. They have up untill last night not been available. Post office is now investigating courier service and if not delivered as supposed to Isando P.O. last friday, they will refund.:cool:

DAVE

Wolfie
05-03-09, 05:37 PM
Hi All

Sorry last time I saw this thread, it seemed like we were not going to continue with the Fly swap. If it's OK with the other partisipants I will finish over the weekend and send the flies overnight on Monday?

Regards

Rudolf

dlampert
09-03-09, 05:51 PM
Msg from Wiets

Received flies from the following members;
Rory – 8
Kreef - 9
JanK – 9
Adrian – 9
FishWhisperer - 9

The following member’s flies are well overdue!!! What must I do???

Poppernel
Deewy
Wolfie

poppernel
09-03-09, 06:33 PM
tracking no: Tc111082839za.

Dave

Just had confirmation that my package arrived at Isando P/O on the 27-02-2009.:confused:

TC 111082839ZA

DAVE

JanK
29-03-09, 05:47 PM
Not to stir the hornets nest any further, did we get flies from everybody? The final list, according to this thread was:

Originally Posted by dlampert
Here is the final list of 8 participants

1. Adrian
2. Poppernel
3. Rory
4. Kreef
5. Deewy
6. Wolfie
7. FishWhisperer
8. JanK

I sent 9 flies, and received 8 back as promised, but 2 were Dave's little bright green bugger, errr I mean charlie :p, and 1 was certainly no "baby charlie", a little on the big side and more clouser style...who's fly was that? The only pics that weren't posted by Wiets on the other forum were for Deewy and Wolfie....

Any clarification?

Wolfie
30-03-09, 12:19 PM
Hi Jan

As said previously in my mesage, I ogriginally thought the flyswap was cancelled, I then asked on the 5th of March if I must still provide the flies and received no response.

I will still gladly supply the flies and forward them via the Post office if you still havn't sent the flies off to everybody, please just let me know.

Regards

Rudolf

JanK
30-03-09, 12:55 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Rudolf. The *not so baby* charlie must have been Deewy's then...kinda guessed with the dollop of epoxy on the head...:D

I don't think there is need for you to send the flies now at this stage, Wiets has already distributed the flies from that swop.

Hope to catch you on another swop :cool:

Salute.

Wolfie
30-03-09, 12:58 PM
Thanks Jan

Sorry for the inconvenience from my side, in this regard.

Regards

Rudolf

rory
02-04-09, 08:06 AM
I received my flies yesterday, thank you for the time and effort guys, nice flies in this swap!;)

Adrian
02-04-09, 08:11 AM
I received my flies yesterday, thank you for the time and effort guys, nice flies in this swap!;)

Thanks Rory for yours , gonna give it a bash in the DBN harbour sat am :D