Sterkfontein Sight Fishing Challenge

[dizzy]

These are the details of the event.
Decide for yourself if its a good deal or a not so good deal. I personally know of guides who are charging a 3rd of this price, for the exactly the same service, minus the "goodie bag".

If I'm not mistaken, Qwantani accommodation is is rather average?

When:
Leg 1: Thursday 20th – Sunday 23rd of January 2011
Leg 2: Thursday 27th - Sunday 30th of January 2011
Team Registration on Thursday from 16h00 to 20h00 – just arrive after work on
Thursday!

Where:
Qwantani Resort-Sterkfontein Dam, Freestate, 3h30 drive from JHB and 2h30
from DBN

Event Highlights:
• Welcome dinner and all meals
• Dedicated pro guide, boat and accommodation per team
• Fly fishing film premiers and presentations
• Fly tying demos
• Guide Auctions
• Awesome goodie bags to all anglers
• Great prizes for all teams

Costs:
R 24,800.00 Incl. VAT per team of 4

Price includes:
• A dedicated professional guide per team
• Dedicated boat and all fuel per team for the duration of the weekend – all
boats are sea worthy and skippered by professionals*
• Accommodation – 1 team and guide per 5 sleeper chalet
• All Meals, starting Thursday dinner and ending with Sunday Breakfast
• Sterkfontein Sight Fishing Challenge Goodie Bag
• Limited Drinks

*Fly fishing is done from the shore, not the boats. The boats are merely used to move around the
Dam. Your guide will move locations during the course of the day to ensure anglers are fishing the
correct areas, under the right conditions.

Price Excludes:
• Drinks
• Transport to and from Sterkfontein
• Tackle

Prizes:
All participating teams will receive prizes.

[Gerrit Viljoen]

Dizzy, miskien is daar 'n Shilton in elke pakkie

[chris williams]

what did the seagull say, when it flew into the cliff?????
FAAAAACCCKKKKKK

Sounds like the seagull's got Tourette's as well..

[Troep]

Dizzy, miskien is daar 'n Shilton in elke pakkie

Gerrit miskien 'n Shilton "wif" lubricants...

[GrahamS]

If I'm not mistaken, Qwantani accommodation is is rather average?

It's pretty decent at Qwantani, but it costs R800 per night for a 6 sleeper unit. So that only makes up 10% of the cost per team...

Like any other 'challenge', this is aimed at corporate sponsored anglers who don't pay for themselves. Corporate trophy challenge is exactly the same ITO high costs. It's a big money spinner for the organisers, so I guess kudos to them.

[Michael]

I don't have a problem with people making money. Good for them.
I do have a problem with people ripping the dam out from under the duck.

R 6,200 per person IS ridiculous. Maybe it's good value in the Seychelles, but on Sterkfontein or a trout river it's just shameful. Especially having one guide per 4 people! At that price, each guy should have his own guide...putting him into fish, carrying his sh1t, tying on his flies and taking loads of photo's. (But I KNOW that's not the case...)

Break it down...

4 guys in a 6 sleeper for 3 nights...R 800 per night = R 2,400.00
Fuel for 3 days fishing = about R 1,050.00 (150 litres)
Food for 3 days (all four guys at R 100.00 a meal/person twice daily) = R 2,400.00
Lunch for 3 days (same, but at about R30.00 per person) = R 360.00

TOTAL: R 6,210.00 per 4 guys. (Or, R 1,552.50 each)

Where does the other R 4,647.50 per person come in then?

Oh yeah sorry I forgot...the guiding fee and the goodie bag, of course...

[Gerrit Viljoen]

Trek vat af dan lyk dit bietjie beter

[Michael]

Trek vat af dan lyk dit bietjie beter

Hardly something you can put through your books as a tax write-off...

[Herman Jooste]

I don't have a problem with people making money. Good for them.
I do have a problem with people ripping the dam out from under the duck.

R 6,200 per person IS ridiculous. Maybe it's good value in the Seychelles, but on Sterkfontein or a trout river it's just shameful. Especially having one guide per 4 people! At that price, each guy should have his own guide...putting him into fish, carrying his sh1t, tying on his flies and taking loads of photo's. (But I KNOW that's not the case...)

Break it down...

4 guys in a 6 sleeper for 3 nights...R 800 per night = R 2,400.00
Fuel for 3 days fishing = about R 1,050.00 (150 litres)
Food for 3 days (all four guys at R 100.00 a meal/person twice daily) = R 2,400.00
Lunch for 3 days (same, but at about R30.00 per person) = R 360.00

TOTAL: R 6,210.00 per 4 guys. (Or, R 1,552.50 each)

Where does the other R 4,647.50 per person come in then?Oh yeah sorry I forgot...the guiding fee and the goodie bag, of course...

Mike that equates to a GP of around 45%. Remember the Flyshops work on a GP of Minimum 50%, i.e. Cost x 2.
They are not going out of business. Supply and demand rules.

I still think it's a rip off though.

[Andre]

Mike that equates to a GP of around 45%. Remember the Flyshops work on a GP of Minimum 50%, i.e. Cost x 2.
They are not going out of business. Supply and demand rules.

I still think it's a rip off though.

I don't think the fly shops make that much GP on product. I think a mark up of 50 to 60pecent on cost is more realistic, which would translate into a GP of 33 to 40 percent. A 50%GP on tours and trips is reasonable to expect an operator to make, due to the amount of time taken to organise and arrange the event. The service side of any business always commands a greater GP, due to the intense demands on time and manpower.