Reply With QuoteMost definitly!! But I think if you practised as much with mono indicators you would be just as proficient but would be better connected, miss less takes and therefor catch more fish. We must go for a fish...Originally Posted by kyle-J
Steelhead
Liam...brother...cuz....dude....
I'm coming to CT again, and this time I'm leaving the cell phone switched off...then you must take me to these places!
I'll buy lunch and beers?
Freaking awesome fishing that.
Steelhead
Most definitly!! But I think if you practised as much with mono indicators you would be just as proficient but would be better connected, miss less takes and therefor catch more fish. We must go for a fish...
Around the steel no tortur'd worm shall twine, No blood of living insect stain my line;
Let me, less cruel, cast feather'd hook, With pliant rod athwart the pebbled brook,
Silent along the mazy margin stray, And with fur-wrought fly delude the prey
Steelhead
Get in lineLiam...brother...cuz....dude....
I'm coming to CT again, and this time I'm leaving the cell phone switched off...then you must take me to these places!
I'll buy lunch and beers?
Freaking awesome fishing that.
Around the steel no tortur'd worm shall twine, No blood of living insect stain my line;
Let me, less cruel, cast feather'd hook, With pliant rod athwart the pebbled brook,
Silent along the mazy margin stray, And with fur-wrought fly delude the prey
Steelhead
Mono indicators are not nearly as versatile and as durable, and yes I have fished them too. Yarn you can fish close in or far away and see very easily in all light conditions!But I think if you practised as much with mono indicators you would be just as proficient but would be better connected, miss less takes and therefor catch more fish. We must go for a fish...
Deal, but conditional that you leave that d@ng cellphone off! Fishing and cellphones are not meant to go together at all..Liam...brother...cuz....dude....
I'm coming to CT again, and this time I'm leaving the cell phone switched off...then you must take me to these places!
I'll buy lunch and beers?
Freaking awesome fishing that.
That day on the Smalblaar was something that you doesn't happen every day! Fishing was just too easy...
Matt, make some time in your diary... I'm always keen for a fish!Get in line
"We all fish for our own enjoyment - me for mine and you for yours, nobody can say what is right and what is wrong." - Jim Leisenring
Steelhead
one thing not mentioned is that you don't always use the fly as an indicator per say. rather sometimes i use the dry fly as a point to find my "window" to detect fish movement under the surface. then i will visually pick up the take on the nymph, the actual take, not an indication of a take.
also, most days i get more fish on the dry and end up putting on 2 dries/emergers or just a single dry/emerger anyway. if i am getting a lot more takes on my nymph, i switch to an appropriate nymph rig.
the NZ rig is a great, effective, and fun search rig for a casual days fishing. Its a wonderful tool for visual based fishermen. and im pretty sure there are some guys who have won a few comps using the rig as well...
Steelhead
One problem when fishing with indicators, are the total amount of slack line in a setup.
NOT ALWAYS, but sometimes. There is a long stretch leader and fly line that have to be moved, before a hook can be set.
This section of "dead-line" is very problematic, when the fish have very fast, inspection bites on the fly and don't mouth the fly deep, but only in the lips.
Have a look at the sketch.
This is NOT a problem, when the fish, takes the fly deep or holds it a long time in the mouth.
Korrie Broos
Don't go knocking on Death's door, ring the bell and run like hell. He hates it. (anon)
Nymphing, adds depth to your fly fishing.
Nymphing, is fly fishing in another dimension
Steelhead
Korrie, thanks for your sketch! What you say makes sense...
However, please can you explain as per your diagram how you save "+- 2.45m line saved to move fly"? As per my calc the additional line required to move fly is 0.7m (1+1.5-1.8), surely by lifting your rod (esp if you fishing a 10ft rod) you should easily be able to strike in sufficient time?
In the WC (in my limited experience) we are very lucky in that our waters are relatively "unpressured" and fish will generally not "spit the fly out instantaneously" like might be the case on some european rivers or other heavily fished waters...
"We all fish for our own enjoyment - me for mine and you for yours, nobody can say what is right and what is wrong." - Jim Leisenring
Steelhead
The triangle created by the indicator/fly setup is compared to the straight line is all ready 1,5m + 1m = 2,5m - 1.8m = .7m
Then by dropping the rod tip and to a close as possible straight line with the fly line, all the slack line gathered up, adds up to about 2,45m of line gained, or less of a lagg in setting the hook. ( this was measured with an actual setup, a year or 2 ago)
As for the fish in the Cape, ask Stephen Dugmore about a specific incident.
The difference in catch rate between a yarn/putty indicator and as straight as possible setup.
I think it was something to the effect of 7 or 10 fish to 0. for the straight as possible setup
Korrie Broos
Don't go knocking on Death's door, ring the bell and run like hell. He hates it. (anon)
Nymphing, adds depth to your fly fishing.
Nymphing, is fly fishing in another dimension
Hookjaw
Korrie ek stem nogal met wat jy se hier. Ek het met n dropper loop gevang en n point fly agter en dit het nogal goed gewerk ek het op die dropper en op die point gevang... mar het mense die naweek gesien die new zeeland gebruiki en op die dropper vang..
D
Steelhead
Die NZ rig, werk. Veral waar die vis, baie positief die vlieg neem.
Maar baie sku vis, en vis wat inspeksie byte het, werk dit nie so goed nie.
Dan is die dropper setup met 'n loop baie beter.
Korrie Broos
Don't go knocking on Death's door, ring the bell and run like hell. He hates it. (anon)
Nymphing, adds depth to your fly fishing.
Nymphing, is fly fishing in another dimension
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